ILOVEPAOLODICANIO
2:44 Tue Mar 3
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Jonah Lomas 2:34 Tue Mar 3
What are you talking about you sad wanker? I don't do anything but save folks money to sporting events. Sorry my customers aren't perfect anad don't but tickets the moment they go on sale but rather months later days before the event.
I told you I liike to sell 200-300 for a game how the fuck are that many people going to buy from me if Im not giving them a great deal and saving them money.
Twat.
You just jealous because you never had the balls to be what you wanted to be. Say goodnight to the bad guy.
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Jonah Lomas
2:34 Tue Mar 3
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I know we have all sorts supporting us, but you're a complete fuckwit ILPD.
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ILOVEPAOLODICANIO
2:05 Tue Mar 3
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Dapablo- no way the prices will just keep going up and up. Buy now if you want to go you can find something OK for around 400 a night.
You realize the venue seats 70,000 and stubhub only has about 300 3 day strips that aren't in awful obstructed sections and for each show itself theres maybe 400-500 OK seats for sale. There aren't that many more bad ones either. The Dead is the most important thing in many of their fans lives.
Come June the prices will be double what they are now at the show might be even higher.
This will be the most expensive concert of all time.
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Dapablo
8:00 Mon Mar 2
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ILOVEPAOLODICANIO wrote...
"Trying to go to that one not profit."
Well done there then sir, would love to of been able to do that myself. Quite a few lost out with the Ticketmaster non-crash as well.
Think as it gets closer the value will encourage sale.
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Joke Whole
7:03 Mon Mar 2
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Russ of the BML 6:21 Mon Mar 2
We're not really at odds then. I (think I) understand and agree with what you're saying, which is why I threw in the "Dutch Auction" suggestion.
For those who are not sure what I'm getting at, maybe an example will help. An East 17 anniversary reunion gig ( yeah - I fucking hope not. too).
Tickets go on sale at GBP1,000 a pop. After 2 days, the price drops to GBP 800, another 2 days GBP600 and so on.
Those eager enough to pay top dollar will bite early, others will wait until the price reaches a level they are prepared to pay (either via a tout or direct to the promoter). If it never reaches that level, it's odds on they were never going to go either way.
Instantly it piles almost all the risk on the tout as they have to get in early to secure a ticket, then find a way to add a mark-up that people have already indicated they're not prepared to pay. Most of their intended customer base won't even give them a second glance, and the promoters have snaffled up all that profit that the touts thought was coming their way.
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Russ of the BML
6:21 Mon Mar 2
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Joke Whole 5:53 Mon Mar 2
Yes, but people know if they want to see Barbera Striesand then it is going to be top end, for example, £100 - £150 a ticket.
But, that's the price you pay to see a so called legend. It will be a classy affair and probably attended on the whole by middle class, middle aged people so the pricing reflects that.
There are entertainers that can charge that and still sell out. That is the supply and demand issue.
But my point is that is what should be paid. The top end face value price. That means that most people that want to go can afford to go. So then why should vast sections of the tickets be bought up by touts only to be sold at £400 or £500. That means that even the target audience can't afford it.
The supply and demand part comes from the face value price. Yes, there are always people rich enough to pay five times that and that is why the touts do what they do. But to me, it is a grossly unfair system which needs sorting out.
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Sue Perdupa
5:54 Mon Mar 2
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As exposed by The Dispatches documentary The Great Ticket Scandal two or three years ago, a large proportion of tickets end up on the secondary market because of deals between the promoters and the secondary market providers. If I remember correctly, the Take That gig at the O2 set a record for selling out in 15 minutes. It turned out the entire stalls allocation was never put on public sale, just transferred in bulk to Viagogo. Live Nation and Viagogo split the fortune that was made. When the programme makers spoke to MPs and lawyers in turned out that this is perfectly legal.
Dont care what the law says, what they were up to was basically fraud against their customers
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Joke Whole
5:53 Mon Mar 2
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Russ of the BML 4:41 Mon Mar 2
Then we're going to have to agree to disagree.
Life is never "fair". If it was evolution would grind to a halt, and, just because us humans can mostly walk and chew gum at the same time does not mean we're somehow excluded from the realities of life: look, for instance, at the face value prices for a concert by someone like Barbara Streisand: clearly aimed at the "who can pay most" section of humanity - and yet people will still pay more for "the experience".
It's demand AND supply, not demand OR supply that drives these things, whether it's tickets for a concert, a trip to Mars or a new car.
These proposals will do absolutely NOTHING to quench the DEMAND for tickets that are in short SUPPLY.
They don't even manage the supply/demand inequality. They're basically a response to a hissy fit by some well connected members of the establishment who think THEY should be getting more money, and they don't give a fuck where it comes from.
If they really wanted to manage demand to supply, a Dutch Auction is the way.
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You must be Gary
5:23 Mon Mar 2
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You're actually proud of being scum?
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ILOVEPAOLODICANIO
5:08 Mon Mar 2
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http://www.stubhub.com/k-state-football-tickets/kansas-state-wildcats-purple-white-spring-game-4-25-2015-9249814/
Tickets to this game (its a friendly between a university football team splitting up and playing themselves in the offseason as practice and is being played at an MLS stadium which is half capacity of the regular ground) went on sale an hour ago and all the regular ones are now sold out.
Filled my boots on that one grabbed almost 300.
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Russ of the BML
4:41 Mon Mar 2
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Joke Whole 3:22 Mon Mar 2
I don't agree. It is about protecting the consumer. Gigs and shows shouldn't be about who has the most money to pay to go it should be about who gets in first.
People who can only afford to pay face value for a concert at say £45 go on line at day and time of sale. Go in to buy tickets the second they go on sale to find they are sold out. Two minutes later they are all on sale at £150+ all over the web. Not a problem if you have money to burn but many haven't and they are the ones that make the effort to get on and get them as soon as they go on sale.
People with loads of wedge don't bother because they can amble onto the internet whenever it suits them and pay four times the price of the actual value because they can.
It's unfair.
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ILOVEPAOLODICANIO
4:35 Mon Mar 2
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Dapablo 2:49 Mon Mar 2
Kinda.
Trying to go to that one not profit.
That concert is a prime example that the resellers aren't the ones who drive up the prices, the demand is what drives up the prices and well over a million people wanting to go when it only seats 70k. And honestly the more tickets resellers buy the higher the supply on the secondary market and thus the lower the cost.
I managed to get 3 tickets in section 120 lower level at face value in my cart on ticketmaster for the 7/4 show. However I got fucked and the page when blank when I clicked continue after the delivery choice screen and lost them.
I have purchased 2 tickets for all 3 nights off stubhub for 1400 each. Decent seats 303 row 9. May resell for a profit if I don't use them.
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The Human Stain
3:51 Mon Mar 2
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are you telling us you're going to have to leave your bedroom to earn a living. That must be tough. Maybe we should dip into the fund..
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Joke Whole
3:22 Mon Mar 2
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Without offering a single ounce of defence to the O/P's chosen profession, this move seems much less about protecting the consumer (although it's carefully promoted as doing such) but more about ensuring that if there's ANY profit to be made from a promoted concert or performance, the promoters want ALL of that profit for themselves - even if THEY fucked up their original pricing strategy.
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AdamL
3:17 Mon Mar 2
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Presumably the resale sites will force you to scan the barcode of the ticket in order to list it and thus the only ticket that could be cancelled is yours.
They do this in the States (force you to scan the barcode that is - not cancel tix.)
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On The Ball
3:03 Mon Mar 2
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Your justification is retarded.
Those people that wanted to go but couldn't get tickets would have got tickets if cunts like you hadn't bought them in the first place.
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gph
2:57 Mon Mar 2
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"USA! USA! USA! USA! USA!"
If you really were a patriot, you'd hide your nationality so as to avoid bring the US into disrepute.
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Dapablo
2:49 Mon Mar 2
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D'you get any Dead at Soldier Field tks?
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Joe C
2:49 Mon Mar 2
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Trying to justify ripping people off basically
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LondonE3
2:47 Mon Mar 2
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what's this cunt babbling on about?
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ILOVEPAOLODICANIO
2:40 Mon Mar 2
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Darby_ 1:53 Mon Mar 2
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Gutted, PAOLO?
No I live in the USA.
Im changing my opinion and agreeing with everyone though Im a cunt and its horrrible to sell tickets at a profit. Just so I know though can I buy tickets off a secondary site like stubhub and a tout and resell those for a profit 2 months later if Im not buying from the venue or ticketmaster when they go onsale and be leess of a cunt??? Is that OK.
My other question is what happens when more people want to go to the event than there are seats for. I personally think that anyone who wants to attend should be able ot do so at face value. I also think they have a right to be offended if they can't. Since its criminnal to offend someone I think they need to start cancelling events when people want to go and there are no tickets left. Forget letting free markets run their course just cancel the events people can't be getting offended.
West Ham could have filled their allocation for the 2006 FA Cup Final 10 times over Im sure over 100000 Hammers were offended that they couldn't see us play for face value in person. Noone should have to watch on TV the game should have been cancelled when it was sold out and more people still wanted to go.
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